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Meduolis
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2005-04-29 10:17

Vienas toks žmogus įrodinėja, kad net ir pats bukiausias, neišsilavinęs ar net psichiškai nesveikas krikščionis diskusijoje gali laisvai nugalėti bet kurį net ir labai aukštą išsilavinimą ir intelektą turintį nekrikščionį: http://www.rmiweb.org/other/promorons.pdf

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I have often said that the person who affirms the biblical worldview and who practices the biblical apologetic can easily and conclusively defeat any non-Christian. It does not matter whether the non-Christian is an atheist, a Muslim, a Buddhist, or a Catholic, and it does not matter even if the non-Christian is highly educated. In fact, I have even stated that even a toddler who has been trained in biblical apologetics can crush any professor of science or philosophy. Here I will go even further. I will assert that even a person who is mentally limited or damaged in some way, but who can nevertheless communicate in fragmented statements (e.g. a person with Down's Syndrome), can still defeat any non-Christian scientist or philosopher.
In connection with this, I have also said that although a non-Christian scientist or philosopher might give a better presentation of his views, the substance of his arguments are never really better than any other non-Christian, including the retarded and the insane. That is, a non-Christian scholar might be able to argue his case with greater precision, coherence, and thoroughness, but when it comes to the rational merits of his arguments, his case is just as foolish and fallacious than that of any uneducated and even mentally disabled non-Christian.

This is true not just when they are speaking about God or religion, but it is true about everything that they say. One's view on the ultimate reality, being ultimate, necessarily affects every area of his worldview; therefore, because the non-Christian is wrong about the ultimate reality, he is wrong about everything.
This brings us to an important point mentioned earlier. Can even children defeat these non-Christian professors in debate? They certainly can, if they are properly trained by their parents and their pastors.
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son
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2005-04-29 10:40

Ateonas wrote: Kelios citatos:
It does not matter whether the non-Christian is an atheist, a Muslim, a Buddhist, or a Catholic , :shock:
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Meduolis
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2005-04-29 10:43

Matai, didelė dalis krikščionių, ypač protestantiškų denominacijų tarpe, katalikus laiko stabmeldžiais, o ne krikščionimis. Nueik į jezus.lt, jie tau tai patvirtins.
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son
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2005-04-29 11:08

Ateonas wrote:Matai, didelė dalis krikščionių, ypač protestantiškų denominacijų tarpe, katalikus laiko stabmeldžiais, o ne krikščionimis. Nueik į jezus.lt, jie tau tai patvirtins.
zinau esu tokiu sutikes :D bet tai labai gerai parodo ju mentaliteta ir intelekta..
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Snukis
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2005-04-29 11:38

son wrote:... tai labai gerai parodo ju mentaliteta ir intelekta..
...uztai jie visus "easily" bei "conclusively" ir "nugali" :lol:
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2005-04-29 13:13

:shock:
Neturiu zodziu. Ne kiek man nejuokinga. Ash suprantu kad bukumui ribu nera, bet maniau, kad bent aklumas galiausiai atsiremia i kokia siena ir nebeisheina ignoruoti oponento teiigniu. O pasirodo, kad mes klystam ish esmes, todel klystam del visko ir nereik cia i kliedesius tikratikiams atsakinet :x .
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liuciferis
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2005-05-05 22:07

po daugelio bandymų ir stebėjimų supratau tokį fenomenalų krikščionių gebėjimą diskutuoti.
Viskas slypi jų bukame nesupratyme, jog jie nusipeza, nes tiki tuo jog marija neščia nuo dievo o ne nuo kokio nors romėnų kareivio su kardu. Taigi "žinodami" jog jie teisūs jie "žino" jgo priešininkai neteisūs. Tad jiems net nereikia diskutuot. :)
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Snukis
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2005-05-05 23:02

liuciferis wrote:po daugelio bandymų ir stebėjimų supratau tokį fenomenalų krikščionių gebėjimą diskutuoti.
Viskas slypi jų bukame nesupratyme, jog jie nusipeza, nes tiki tuo jog marija neščia nuo dievo o ne nuo kokio nors romėnų kareivio su kardu. Taigi "žinodami" jog jie teisūs jie "žino" jgo priešininkai neteisūs. Tad jiems net nereikia diskutuot. :)
... bet diskusiju forumus kuria :?
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Nomad
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2005-05-06 08:19

Tai juose ir diskutuoja apie tokius giliai prasmingus dalykus, kaip "ar verta draugauti su nekrikščioniu" :) Visos rimtos diskusijos dėl tikėjimo klausimų prasideda tik atėjus ateistams. Pavyzdžiui dėl tarptautinių sutarčių, grįstų 100 ar kiek ten apyvarpių...
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Arxan
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2005-05-06 15:52

Statistiniai tyrimai rodo kad kuo žmogus labiau prie mokslo tuo mažiau religingas:
http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelli ... igion.html
The simplest and most parsimonious explanation is that religion is a set of logical and factual claims, and those with the most logic and facts at their disposal are rejecting it largely on those grounds
Smart people don't believe in god...
God doesn't believe in smart people - thats why all his followers are stupid
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